Twenty-something. F. Toronto. Vegan exploring fitness, healthy eating & raw foods, on a busy schedule in a busy city ♥


The past few days I haven’t posted much because I’ve been in the throes of health forum oversaturation. The raw forums, the 811 forums, the LFRV forums, and then there’s the raw blogging community. The first few days focused on reading up in the blogs, and I felt amazing and full of energy! And then the days after that I devoted my time to reading the forums, where most of my days were not as good as the ones before, and today I had a flare-up for the first time all week. After some thought I think it might have been due to a B12 supplement I took in the morning without realizing that it had lactose in it. Hello! Lactose intolerant right here! Yes it is that severe!

Regardless – when I first started reading about raw, I was nothing but inspired. Blogs like Gena Hamshaw‘s in particular, since she was a fellow IBS sufferer who healed after changing her diet. And reading other blogs, all of which are on my blogroll, I was so excited about raw and bought all this stuff to make some awesome yummy food. I was feeling so full of energy and full of life! Then, I found the forums, where I read so many conflicting opinions that made my head spin. A lot of people were talking about 811 (80% of calories from carbs, 10 and 10 from protein and fats respectively), or LFRV (low fat raw vegan for those who don’t know). Some people survived on nothing but fruits. Some people were paleo. All had pictures, and they all looked great – healthy, strong, and full of energy. They all said their way of doing things was the best, and I read the arguments behind everything.

This got to be sooo stressful. I wasn’t sure and still am not sure who to believe anymore. Gena cured her IBS with what I consider to be gourmet raw, and a bunch of people on the forums cured their colitis/etc by eating fruits all day and then salad for dinner. What should I do? This question ran around in my mind for the past few days. Whose way was the best way? It got to be so stressful I almost didn’t want to try anything, and at a few points I convinced myself I would be able to live only on smoothies.

Smoothies are great and all, but I need to go back to why raw started interesting me in the first place. Digestion, and getting rid of my digestive issues! I’ve for the most part felt pretty good all week, except the past few days I have been really dizzy, lightheaded, and have gotten headaches. This from a girl who NEVER gets headaches, ever!

I also really love the supportive anything-goes non-dogmatic, laid back vibrant energy of the raw blog community. When I read the blogs I feel so revitalized and happy, optimistic and healthy. When I read the forums I just am the biggest worry wort ever, and get bogged down with theory. I think the theory I need to apply is of my body. What feels good? What digests well? What tastes good? I don’t want to deprive myself, I want to enjoy the amazing tastes of fresh whole foods.

I swear – my boyfriend’s mother is a dietician, and if she knew I was even considering doing the 811 mostly fruit thing she would be floored! I had mostly fruits today, and a small salad, and I’m feeling like shit. This can work for some people but at this point in time I don’t think it’s necessary for me! I think some part of me needs nuts or something. Expect one of Brendan Brazier’s raw nut pate recipes this week, I’m going to try one out!

But I have to ask – has anyone else gone through a similar crisis of ideologies? What has your experience been? Sorry for the long-winded post but I had a lot to get out, lol. I feel a lot lighter now.

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5 Responses

  1. Awww, thanks for the linkage to my contest and for what you said, thank you. I adore Gena, she’s a great inspiration to us all and i avoid blogs that dont make sense or are negative or dogmatic, or any forums that are that way. You will find your place & path, I know it!

    • vegn says:

      Hey Averie! 🙂 No problem, I love checking out your blog, it always brings a smile to my face! You are always so full of energy and everything you make looks delicious!

      It’s definitely a good idea to get away from dogmatic things, I’ve decided – I just don’t have enough science smarts yet to know who’s right. 🙂 Trial and error I guess!

      Thank you for your kind words! xx

  2. Gena says:

    Hey there. Everyone has to find their own set of beliefs and truths, but I can say that, from my vantage point, the 80/10/10 diet is not only not nutritionally ideal, but a surefire road to binging, social isolation, and deprivation for most women. A good friend of mine likes to recall a raw expo she attended wherein the fruitarian who was speaking (a famous figure) actually passed out on stage. Point? Be circumspect about that vision.

    I don’t think I’m quite gourmet raw. I don’t wake up and eat a giant raw cinnamon bun, followed by a nut burger and cheeze for lunch, and raw lasagna for dinner. There’s lots of juice and salads in there. But yes, I do eat plenty of density, as well as plenty of cooked vegan food. The balance keeps me energetic and satisfied, and it also keeps my digestion in harmony.

    I don’t think my way is for everyone, but I do think that variety and adequate caloric consumption matter for all people. So you have to find a way of paying attention to those things that works for you. Good luck!

    • vegn says:

      Hey Gena! I would agree with you from what I’ve seen so far on the 80/10/10. I’ve never felt so out of whack. That is ridiculous that said fruitarian just passed out, and it definitely says a lot.

      I’m sorry if you took offense to my labeling of you as ‘gourmet raw’! I didn’t mean anything other than that all of the recipes on your blog look AMAZING, creative, and delicious! You just whip up recipes and my idea of a recipe is some spinach and cucumbers, so your creations all look so exotic to me. I didn’t mean to suggest in any way that you were unhealthy or hedonistic or anything, just that your goodies look so amazing! I could never come up with the combos that you do, so creative. 🙂

      Do you have any tips for getting IBS in order while adding more raw foods? I’ve been trying to up my salad intake, and have been eliminating refined sugars as well as wheat/soy. Do you find that if you stray from a particular dietary routine, your digestion acts up? Just thought I’d ask. 🙂 Hope that isn’t too personal, lol! I’m sorry if you’ve posted about this somewhere before, as well.

      Trial and error, while I think it is a necessity, is kind of annoying – I want to feel better NOW, dammit! Not in 2 years!

      Thank you for your response, it brightened my day! I really appreciate that you took the time to give me your .02. Hope you are having a swell day, and thank you SO much for your blog – it has helped me tons! xx

  3. Hey! I just thought I’d chime in here. I’ve definitely spent my share of time on the forums you’re describing. I think what it comes down to is that everyone has a different metabolism and body time and some people can do well on paleo, 811, gourmet raw, grains or no grains, etc.

    For example if I lived on a tropical island you can bet I’d be eating tons of fruit. But hello Canada… not happening. 😉 So it’s about finding what works for you!

    Hope that helps. 🙂 And forums aren’t always the best place unfortunately…

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